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1 Reincarnarea la data de Dum Mai 30, 2010 9:15 pm


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Reincarnarea




Hey,crezi in reincarnare?
aca da,da-ne un motiv pentru care sustii asta. Explica ce e reincarnarea

Eu nu cred...dar,sincer,nu pot sa si explic de ce



2 Re: Reincarnarea la data de Dum Mai 30, 2010 9:24 pm


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Eu sunt crestin-ortodoxa. Dar felul in care vad eu Raiul, Iadul si viata sau vietile am descoperit ca se apropie parerii Buddhistilor.

Sa ne imaginam o scara. Tu esti pe la mijloc. Treapta pe care esti acum este viata ta. In functie de cum ti-o traiesti, daca iti atingi sau nu scopul / inveti sau nu ce trebuia sa inveti, la inceputul vietii tale fie urci o treapta, fie cobori una. Si tot asa, pana ajungi la unul dintre capete.

Ar fi prea trist ca existenta noastra sa se limiteze la un singur moment din timp. Asa cum ar fi irosire de spatiu sa fim singura planeta cu viata, ar fi irosire de timp sa existam doar la un moment dat...

Cred totusi ca scara are capete, deoarece totul are sfarsit si inceput (toate resursele sunt epuizabile, desi unele sunt regenerabile). Oricum, ideea e ca primesti multe multe multe sanse pe parcurs pentru a ajunge in capatul de sus giggle


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3 Re: Reincarnarea la data de Dum Mai 30, 2010 10:52 pm


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Da,cred în metempsihoză. Deși sunt ortodoxă, nu am mai deloc tangențe cu religia sau regulile ei. Ca să fiu sinceră, aș putea comenta cam tot ce are Biblia de zis fără să mă simt vinovată în vreun fel. Și asta nu înseamnă că fac parte din categoria ateilor. Nicidecum.
Din punctul meu de vedere, din moment ce există psihologia care atestă existența unui inconștient cu răbufniri care aduc amintiri din vieți trecute, atunci clar trebuie să fi fost ceva, cândva care să le influențeze.
Ia spre exemplu senzația de deja-vu. Sau pur și simplu gândește-te că mergi pe o stradă pe care nu ai mai călcat-o în viața ta și ajungi la o intersecție. În mod curios știi unde duc ambele ramificații. Cum explici asta? Prin intuiție? Puțin probabil.
Da, cred în spiritul călător și în schimbarea corpurilor de-a lungul vieții.
Cât despre Rai, Iad sau Purgatoriu nu mă pot pronunța. Deși ajunsă la nivelul ăsta nu pot spune cu mâna pe inimă că mă tem pentru vreuna din variante. Poate lucrurile se vor schimba pe măsură ce voi acumula experiență.



4 Re: Reincarnarea la data de Dum Mai 30, 2010 11:01 pm


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eu in momentul acesta nu cred in prea multe si sincer nu am nici un interes in ideea de reincarnare, insa acum cateva zile am gasit povestea asta pe un site si mi-a placut. Va rog sa intelegeti ca e doar o poveste si vreau sa fie luata ca atare

enjoy:

Poveste internet a scris:You were on your way home when you died.
it was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless. You left behind a wife and two children. It was a painless death. The EMT's did their best to save you, but to no avail. Your body was so utterly shattered, that you were better off. Trust me.
And that's when you met me.
"what....what happened?" You asked. "Where am I?"
"You died," I said, matter-of-factly. No point in mincing words.
"there was a... a truck and it was skidding..."
"Yup," I said.
"i...I died?"
"Yup. But don't feel bad about it. Everyone dies," I said.
You looked around. There was nothingness. Just you and me. "What is this place?" You asked. "Is this the afterlife?"
"More or less," I said.
"are you god?" you asked.
"Yup," I replied. "I'm God."
"My kids... my wife," you said.
"what about them?"
"will they be alright?"
"That's what I like to see," i said. "You just died and your main concern is your family. That's good stuff right there."
You looked at me with fascination. To you, I didn't look like God. I just looked like some man. Or possibly a woman. Some vague authority figure, maybe. More of a grammar school teacher than the almighty.
"don't worry," i said. "They'll be fine. Your kids will remember you as perfect in every way. They didn't have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife will cry on the outside, but will soon be relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it's any consolation, she'll feel very guilty for feeling relieved."
"Oh," you said. "So what happens now? Do I go to heaven or hell or something?"
"Neither. You'll be reincarnated."
"Ah," you replied. "So the hindus were correct."
"All religions are right in their own way," I explained. "Walk with me."
You followed along as we strode through the void. "Where are we going?"
"Nowhere in particular," I said. "It's just nice to walk while we talk."
"So what's the point, then?" you asked. "When i get reborn, I'll just be a blank slate, right?" A baby. So all my experiences and everything I did in this life won't matter."
"Not so!" i said. "you have within you all the knowledge and experienes of all your past lives. You just don't remember them right now."
I stpped walking and took you by the shoulders. "Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful, and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human mind can only contain a tiny fraction of who you are. It's like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see if it's hot or cold. You put a tiny part of yourself into the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you've gained all the experience to be had.
"You've been in a human for the last 48 years, so you haven't stretched out yet and felt the rest of your immense consciousness. If we hung out here long enough, you'd start remembering everything. But there's no point to doing that between each life."
"How many times have I been reincarnated, then?"
"Oh lots. lots and lots. And into lots of different lives." I said. "This time around, you'll be a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD."
"Wait, what?" you stammered. "You're sending me back in time?"
"Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it, only exists in your universe. Things are different where I come from."
"Where you come from?" You said.
"Oh sure," I explained. "I come from somewhere. Somewhere else. And there are others like me. I know you'll want to know what it's like there, but honestly you wouldn't understand."
"Oh," you said, a little let down. "But wait...If i get reincarnated to other places in time, I could have interacted with myself at some point."
"Sure. Happens all the time. And with both lives only aware of their lifespan, you don't even know it's happening."
"So what's the point of it all?"
"Seriously?" I asked. "Seriously? You're asking me for the meaning of life? Isn't that a little stereotypical?"
"Well it's a reasonable question," you persisted.
I looked you in the eye. "The meaning of life, the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to mature."
"You mean makind? you want us to mature?"
"No, just you. I made this whole universe for you. With each new life you grow and mature and become a larger and greater intellect."
"Just me? What about everyone else?"
"There is no one else." I said. "In this universe, there's just you and me."
You stared blankly at me. "But all the people on earth..."
"All you. Different incarnations of you."
"Wait... I'm everyone?!"
"Now you're getting it," I said, with a congratulatory slap on the back.
"I'm every human being who ever lived?"
"Or who will ever live, yes."
"I'm Abraham Lincoln?"
"And you're John Wilkes Booth too." I added.
"I'm Hitler?" You said, appalled.
"And you're the millions he killed."
"I'm Jesus?"
"And everyone who followed him."
You fell silent.
"Everytime you victimized someone," I said, "You were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you've done, you've done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by a human was, or will be, experienced by you.
You thought for a long time.
"Why?" you asked me, "Why do all this?"
"Because someday," I explained, "you will become like me. Because that's what you are. You're one of my kind. You're my child."
"Whoa," you said, incredulous. "You mean i'm a god?"
"No. Not yet," I corrected you, "you're just a fetus. You're still growing. Once you've lived every human life throughout all time, you will have grown enough to be born."
"So the whole universe," you said, "it's just..."
"An egg." I answered. "Now it's time for you to move on to your next life."
And I sent you on your way.



5 Re: Reincarnarea la data de Lun Mai 31, 2010 12:12 pm


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Sufletul uman este esenta divina inchisa in trupul nostru ; aceasta esenta supravietuieste mortii corpului fizic, renascand in alt corp, in alta viata. Reincarnarile sunt perioade de purificare pentru ca sufletul sa-si recapete esenta divina. Daca ai pacatuit intr-o viata anterioara, pedeapsa vine in aceasta noua viata, in care trebuie sa fie "spalate" pacatele.
Teoria karmei este expresia unei legi naturale a cauzelor si efectelor si nu trebuie asimilata cu vreo justitie divina sau destin, actul insusi - karma - fiind diferit fata de efectul sau - phala. Pentru un budhist scopul vietii este eliberarea de renasterile continue, iar aceasta se realizeaza prin eliberarea de sclavia propriei karma, buna sau rea; scopul tuturor existentelor fiind stingerea intregii karma si atingerea Nirvanei.
Reincarnarea ciclica, aceasta roata a vietilor multiple, o regasim si la hinduism, si in literatura ezoterica evreiasca, la egipteni si chiar la crestini pana prin secolul al IX-lea cand, Parintii Bisericii au dat ca posibila, o singura viata. Noi nu ne aventuram atat de departe si acordam beneficiul tuturor posibilitatilor. Deci...








6 Re: Reincarnarea la data de Mier Oct 06, 2010 9:08 pm


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Pai eu nu prea stiu ce sa cred.
Nu sunt nici contra,nici pro,dar cred ca exista reincarnare.nu stiu de ce,dar cred
Insa pentru ca sunt crestin-ortodoxa,este un motiv sa nu cred in reincarnare.
Totusi,au fost atatea si atatea subiecte ba despre reincarneare,ba despre sfarsitul lumii,ba despre ctrumeure si asa mai departe.Acum,fie ce-o fi.



7 Re: Reincarnarea la data de Dum Noi 07, 2010 1:22 pm


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Nu cred în așa ceva pentru că
1.Religia spune clar că nu există reîncarnare.
2.Nu cred că poți avea mai multe vieți.Pur și simplu fake

http://www.ally-just-me.piczo.com


8 Re: Reincarnarea la data de Joi Noi 11, 2010 2:04 am


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riiight



9 Re: Reincarnarea la data de Lun Ian 17, 2011 9:19 pm


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kpl a scris:eu in momentul acesta nu cred in prea multe si sincer nu am nici un interes in ideea de reincarnare, insa acum cateva zile am gasit povestea asta pe un site si mi-a placut. Va rog sa intelegeti ca e doar o poveste si vreau sa fie luata ca atare

enjoy:

Poveste internet a scris:You were on your way home when you died.
it was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless. You left behind a wife and two children. It was a painless death. The EMT's did their best to save you, but to no avail. Your body was so utterly shattered, that you were better off. Trust me.
And that's when you met me.
"what....what happened?" You asked. "Where am I?"
"You died," I said, matter-of-factly. No point in mincing words.
"there was a... a truck and it was skidding..."
"Yup," I said.
"i...I died?"
"Yup. But don't feel bad about it. Everyone dies," I said.
You looked around. There was nothingness. Just you and me. "What is this place?" You asked. "Is this the afterlife?"
"More or less," I said.
"are you god?" you asked.
"Yup," I replied. "I'm God."
"My kids... my wife," you said.
"what about them?"
"will they be alright?"
"That's what I like to see," i said. "You just died and your main concern is your family. That's good stuff right there."
You looked at me with fascination. To you, I didn't look like God. I just looked like some man. Or possibly a woman. Some vague authority figure, maybe. More of a grammar school teacher than the almighty.
"don't worry," i said. "They'll be fine. Your kids will remember you as perfect in every way. They didn't have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife will cry on the outside, but will soon be relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it's any consolation, she'll feel very guilty for feeling relieved."
"Oh," you said. "So what happens now? Do I go to heaven or hell or something?"
"Neither. You'll be reincarnated."
"Ah," you replied. "So the hindus were correct."
"All religions are right in their own way," I explained. "Walk with me."
You followed along as we strode through the void. "Where are we going?"
"Nowhere in particular," I said. "It's just nice to walk while we talk."
"So what's the point, then?" you asked. "When i get reborn, I'll just be a blank slate, right?" A baby. So all my experiences and everything I did in this life won't matter."
"Not so!" i said. "you have within you all the knowledge and experienes of all your past lives. You just don't remember them right now."
I stpped walking and took you by the shoulders. "Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful, and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human mind can only contain a tiny fraction of who you are. It's like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see if it's hot or cold. You put a tiny part of yourself into the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you've gained all the experience to be had.
"You've been in a human for the last 48 years, so you haven't stretched out yet and felt the rest of your immense consciousness. If we hung out here long enough, you'd start remembering everything. But there's no point to doing that between each life."
"How many times have I been reincarnated, then?"
"Oh lots. lots and lots. And into lots of different lives." I said. "This time around, you'll be a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD."
"Wait, what?" you stammered. "You're sending me back in time?"
"Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it, only exists in your universe. Things are different where I come from."
"Where you come from?" You said.
"Oh sure," I explained. "I come from somewhere. Somewhere else. And there are others like me. I know you'll want to know what it's like there, but honestly you wouldn't understand."
"Oh," you said, a little let down. "But wait...If i get reincarnated to other places in time, I could have interacted with myself at some point."
"Sure. Happens all the time. And with both lives only aware of their lifespan, you don't even know it's happening."
"So what's the point of it all?"
"Seriously?" I asked. "Seriously? You're asking me for the meaning of life? Isn't that a little stereotypical?"
"Well it's a reasonable question," you persisted.
I looked you in the eye. "The meaning of life, the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to mature."
"You mean makind? you want us to mature?"
"No, just you. I made this whole universe for you. With each new life you grow and mature and become a larger and greater intellect."
"Just me? What about everyone else?"
"There is no one else." I said. "In this universe, there's just you and me."
You stared blankly at me. "But all the people on earth..."
"All you. Different incarnations of you."
"Wait... I'm everyone?!"
"Now you're getting it," I said, with a congratulatory slap on the back.
"I'm every human being who ever lived?"
"Or who will ever live, yes."
"I'm Abraham Lincoln?"
"And you're John Wilkes Booth too." I added.
"I'm Hitler?" You said, appalled.
"And you're the millions he killed."
"I'm Jesus?"
"And everyone who followed him."
You fell silent.
"Everytime you victimized someone," I said, "You were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you've done, you've done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by a human was, or will be, experienced by you.
You thought for a long time.
"Why?" you asked me, "Why do all this?"
"Because someday," I explained, "you will become like me. Because that's what you are. You're one of my kind. You're my child."
"Whoa," you said, incredulous. "You mean i'm a god?"
"No. Not yet," I corrected you, "you're just a fetus. You're still growing. Once you've lived every human life throughout all time, you will have grown enough to be born."
"So the whole universe," you said, "it's just..."
"An egg." I answered. "Now it's time for you to move on to your next life."
And I sent you on your way.
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